Dr Zieve talks with Dr Penny George of the Bravewell Collaborative about applying philanthropy to support and encourage the use of integrative principles and techniques in mainstream medicine. Penny George PsyD is a leader in the national movement to transform medicine and healthcare through the principles and practices of integrative medicine. Dr. George is co-founder of the Bravewell Collaborative, a national collaboration of philanthropists dedicated to advancing the principles and practice of integrative medicine. She also co-founded what is now known as the Penny George Institute for Health and Healing at Abbott Northwestern Hospital in Minneapolis, the George Institute is the largest hospital-based integrative medicine program in the country. Read more at bravewell.org.